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1 F4 Connection ? on 06.04.08 15:51

I remember I read somewhere that Ken either wrote/composed a song sung by taiwan boyband F4 because my youngest sister was asking me whether did Ken wrote/composed a song titled Meteor Rain as she found 1 of Ken's songs quite similar to Meteor Rain .

If it's correct , I think Ken composed the tune of Meteor Rain ? I doubt he wrote it as it's in chinese

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2 Re: F4 Connection ? on 06.04.08 17:36

Karen,
Actually, if i'm not mistaken, he wrote the song and sang it in Japanese himself. I'm not too sure whether he composed the tune, though. The title is "Gaining Through Losing" from the album with the same name. It is later that someone composed a new lyric in Mandarin for F4. In my opinion, Ken's version sounds way much better than the Mandarin version. I'm sure everyone here agrees. Hehe.

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3 Re: F4 Connection ? on 06.04.08 17:59

laegolass wrote:Karen,
Actually, if i'm not mistaken, he wrote the song and sang it in Japanese himself. I'm not too sure whether he composed the tune, though. The title is "Gaining Through Losing" from the album with the same name. It is later that someone composed a new lyric in Mandarin for F4. In my opinion, Ken's version sounds way much better than the Mandarin version. I'm sure everyone here agrees. Hehe.

oh ya oh ya , I remembered it now

bcos yesterday I was watching MTV UNPLUGGED with Ken & when Gaining Through Losing was done , my youngest sister commented that eh isn't that song was sung by F4 .

Ok thanks for that Smile & yes the melody of GTL was composed by Ken

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4 Re: F4 Connection ? on 06.04.08 23:15

but the F4 version is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more popular here Sad


and people would refer it as "the F4 song" bounce

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5 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 1:15

That's why I always complaining to my friends here when they said if Ken's version is a cover version! I hate F4....grumble...grumble...

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6 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 4:59

Lucas Faith wrote:That's why I always complaining to my friends here when they said if Ken's version is a cover version! I hate F4....grumble...grumble...

haha

F4's Meteor Rain's not a cover , period . I think the lyrics are totally different from Gaining Though Losing .

The only thing simliar between both songs are the melody

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7 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 5:32

so what is it called? coz I'm sure that they must have asked Ken's permission first haven't they?

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8 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 6:12

Ken-chan composed the song, if you look carefully at the credits.

F4 simply just used the melody and created 'Meteor Rain'.
I can't believe I was crazy over that song.

Wink

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9 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 6:29

flawLezz wrote:so what is it called? coz I'm sure that they must have asked Ken's permission first haven't they?

to be more specified , DefStar records . It's just so happened that both F4 & Ken are under Sony BMG so I don't think there was any problem requesting DefStar records to obtain permission to use the melody to Ken's Gaining Though Losing

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10 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 6:30

fanaticjans wrote:Ken-chan composed the song, if you look carefully at the credits.

F4 simply just used the melody and created 'Meteor Rain'.
I can't believe I was crazy over that song.

Wink

haha those were the days & yes Ken composed Gaining Through Losing . I have the album & I can verfied it , it's stated inside the CD sleeves

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11 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 9:48

okay guys~
Lets just say this...

F4 is gone because they can't sing shit. All they do is try to win people with their boyish good looks. No So they put out a song that made them popular which originally is not even their own, but not many people know about this since ken was just starting to become popular in taiwan, china and hong kong.

So all the uneducated of ken's music people thought ken stole the song or its just F4's song.

Also Ronald Cheng did a Cantonese version of "Hitomi wo Tojeite"(again dont remember spelling).

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12 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 10:43

Well obviously people didn't do their homework & just make false accusations .

Like F4's case , Meteor Rain was released in '03 ? Gaining Through Losing (the album I mean) was released in '01 !

Similarly Hitomi wo Tojite was released in '04 . I don't know when Ronald Cheng covered it but before non Ken fans were to jump the shark , shouldn't they go to wikipedia or somewhere else to do their research ?

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13 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 11:20

minlilin wrote:Well obviously people didn't do their homework & just make false accusations .

Like F4's case , Meteor Rain was released in '03 ? Gaining Through Losing (the album I mean) was released in '01 !

Similarly Hitomi wo Tojite was released in '04 . I don't know when Ronald Cheng covered it but before non Ken fans were to jump the shark , shouldn't they go to wikipedia or somewhere else to do their research ?

Totally agree to it. In my opinion, this is because Ken's not that sparkingly popular in other country, that's why people will accused him as the coverer like in F4 case.

Here in Indonesia, F4 is totally popular because of their acting in "meteor garden" and "meteor garden 2". If I recalled it right, F4 ever had a concert here.

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14 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 12:18

Lucas Faith wrote:

Totally agree to it. In my opinion, this is because Ken's not that sparkingly popular in other country, that's why people will accused him as the coverer like in F4 case.

Here in Indonesia, F4 is totally popular because of their acting in "meteor garden" and "meteor garden 2". If I recalled it right, F4 ever had a concert here.

yup , Ken's big in Japan but unfortunately he's not that well known outside of Japan . If you're living outside of Japan , you either will or will not heard of him before .

Ya man , F4 was really popular during the early '00's . S'pore wasn't spared also haha

argh Ken Ken , you should release a full Eng album !! Like what Babyface said , he can be an international hit if only he sing in Eng . I personally think Ken can do it but the thing's , if he were to take the plunge now , he will be starting all over again in the global market & right now , time's not really on his side .

Sad Sad

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15 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 13:00

so how many english songs has he release btw? (not covers)

I only know "One Love Wonderful World" (which is one of my fav Very Happy ) is there any more?

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16 Re: F4 Connection ? on 07.04.08 13:41

flawLezz wrote:so how many english songs has he release btw? (not covers)

I only know "One Love Wonderful World" (which is one of my fav Very Happy ) is there any more?

if you're talking about original Eng songs & not covers that he has done excluding One Love Wonderful World :

- It will break my heart ~English version~
- When Can I See You

both songs are B sides in his 14th single Missin' you ~It will break my heart~

- What's Goin' On

B side of 8th single LaKuEn

er ya I think that should be it

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17 Re: F4 Connection ? on 08.04.08 8:35

How can i put this, ken's english is not the best english out there. He lacks a lot in pronouncation. He took more english language classes and spoke more english then he should release in english.

Please don't get angry with me, but first listen to all of his english songs or songs that has english with them. You have to admit that sometimes his pronouncation is just not correct and esp in the American market, that is looked as a "no - no"

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18 Re: F4 Connection ? on 08.04.08 8:45

yeah.. haha.

but I've seen singers with worse pronunciation in Music Station btw

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19 Re: F4 Connection ? on 08.04.08 8:54

But u dont see them making an english album do u?LOL

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20 Re: F4 Connection ? on 08.04.08 8:56

chanman wrote:But u dont see them making an english album do u?LOL

LOL nup

to me honestly Ken's Eng dictation's already good considering that Eng's not his 1st language to begin with

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21 Re: F4 Connection ? on 09.04.08 9:03

Yeah~ a lot of the vocabulary is very advanced, but still..i wished he would improve on speech and maybe he'll have more chance in coming to north america for concerts!!!

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22 Re: F4 Connection ? on 09.04.08 12:37

chanman wrote:Yeah~ a lot of the vocabulary is very advanced, but still..i wished he would improve on speech and maybe he'll have more chance in coming to north america for concerts!!!

I know !

have you seen his MTV UNPLUGGED '03 performance ? in between songs , he address the audience in Eng & it's prety good at the way he talked & delivered . His Eng vocab's quite limited but you def have to give him credit for trying man

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23 Re: F4 Connection ? on 10.04.08 3:23

Ken's English pronunciation is not the best of course, but the way he sings/delivers the English songs excel those who can master the language (we're talking about singers whose mother language is not Eng.)
Such as 'Lovin' You', 'The Rose', 'Desperado', 'When u wish upon the star'......
He really sings it with all his heart and soul.
And I like his original Eng. song "What's Goin' on" very much!
2008 is the 10th anniversary of Ken's bar. I hope there is a Ken's bar II album to celebrate it.



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24 Re: F4 Connection ? on 10.04.08 5:30

goldfinger wrote:Ken's English pronunciation is not the best of course, but the way he sings the English songs excel those who can master the language (we're talking about singers whose mother language is not Eng.)

Such as 'Lovin' You', 'The Rose', 'Desperado', 'When u wish upon the star'......
He really sings it with all his heart and soul.

And I like his original Eng. song "What's Goin' on" very much!

2008 is the 10th anniversary of Ken's bar. I hope there is a Ken's bar II album to celebrate it.

Oh I like What's Goin' On , it's a nice one & now that you mention it I didn't realised it has been 10 years since he came up with the Ken's Bar concept , I do hope for another Ken's Bar album .

Maybe he might do something special to celebrate it especially since next month on the 13th , it will be his 13th year in the business , woah!

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25 Re: F4 Connection ? on 10.04.08 10:16

First when i saw the track "What's Goin' on" first think i thought of it was another cover song of Marvin Gaye. But was i ever wrong. Its this fantastic R&B song with very good lyrics. Surprising its one of those songs where I can actually understand what hes saying..lol (just because its not in japanese..haha)

Has anyone heard the Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On" I think it is song that ken should do a cover!!!

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